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axanar_guidelines [2016/05/28 22:36] – [Fan Film Mailing Lists] edits to clarify Carlos Pedrazaaxanar_guidelines [2020/11/09 14:22] (current) – [Participating Productions] corrects fan production name Carlos Pedraza
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 ====== Axanar Tries to Rally Fan Films to Its Proposed Guidelines ====== ====== Axanar Tries to Rally Fan Films to Its Proposed Guidelines ======
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 +<wrap lo>//See also: [[guidelines_backlash|Backlash: Fan Producers Disavow Axanar's Guideline Effort]]//, //[[leaker_accused|Peters Accuses Guidelines Leaker]]// and //[[intrepid|‘Intrepid’ Suspends Production]]//</wrap>
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 With CBS and Paramount reportedly drafting guidelines for fan films, Axanar producer [[Alec Peters]] has reached out to at least nine fan productions for their support of rules Peters wants the studios to accept, and isn't having much luck. With CBS and Paramount reportedly drafting guidelines for fan films, Axanar producer [[Alec Peters]] has reached out to at least nine fan productions for their support of rules Peters wants the studios to accept, and isn't having much luck.
  
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 <wrap em>UPDATE</wrap> Following initial publication of this article, Peters told pro-Axanar blogger Dave Heagney Jr. that he contacted almost every major fan film producer seeking suggestions on guidelines. Eight joined a private Facebook chat group to discuss Peters' first draft. <wrap em>UPDATE</wrap> Following initial publication of this article, Peters told pro-Axanar blogger Dave Heagney Jr. that he contacted almost every major fan film producer seeking suggestions on guidelines. Eight joined a private Facebook chat group to discuss Peters' first draft.
  
-“I just felt that all the active fan films should be able to share their thoughts together in a constructive way,” Peters said. “Most of them don’t speak to CBS, and clearly we are communicating with them regularly, so it felt like the right thing to do."(( /* [[http://hubcapdave.blogspot.co.il/2016/05/an-open-letter-to-vic-mignogna.html]] */ "Forging Fan Film Guidelines," Hubcap Dave blog, 5/27/16.))+“I just felt that all the active fan films should be able to share their thoughts together in a constructive way,” Peters said. “Most of them don’t speak to CBS, and clearly we are communicating with them regularly, so it felt like the right thing to do."(( /* [[http://hubcapdave.blogspot.co.il/2016/05/forging-fan-film-guidelines.html]] */ "Forging Fan Film Guidelines," Hubcap Dave blog, 5/27/16.))
  
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-//**__‘You do all realize that Star Wars does not allow crowdfunding? And there is no way CBS will allow it to move forward. ’__**// — Axanar producer Alec Peters to fan film producers+{{:prelude-klingons.jpg|}} \\ 
 +<wrap lo>**BACKLASH** In a list of [[guidelines_backlash|public statements]], fan producers publicly disavow Axanar's attempt to use its draft guidelines to bolster its settlement negotiations. [[guidelines_backlash|Read more »]]</wrap>
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 > “Unfortunately, James Cawley of Star Trek: New Voyages said no without even hearing a proposal. He was the only one who declined.  Everyone else wanted to at least see what a set of proposed guidelines would look like.”(("Forging Fan Film Guidelines,” Hubcap Dave blog, 5/27/16.)) > “Unfortunately, James Cawley of Star Trek: New Voyages said no without even hearing a proposal. He was the only one who declined.  Everyone else wanted to at least see what a set of proposed guidelines would look like.”(("Forging Fan Film Guidelines,” Hubcap Dave blog, 5/27/16.))
  
-==== Participating Producers ====+==== Participating Productions ====
  
-The producers contacted by Peters represented larger, well-known productions as well as smaller fan films. They included:+<wrap em>UPDATE</wrap> Peters appeared to have contacted more productions than those previously named, using the names of the prominent fan producers and actors to attract others to participate. 
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 +--> Transcript of Peters' Invitation (click to view)# 
 +Tue [May 24] \\ 
 +**Alec Peters**: Hey, with the lawsuit in the home stretch thanks to JJ Abrams, CBS has said they are coming up with guidelines. I want all of us fan film makers to get together and submit our suggested guidelines. \\ \\ Already spoken to Todd Haberkorn (STC), Mike King (Valiant), John Atkin (Yorktown), Ryan Husk (Renegades). \\ \\ James Cawley is being a pain and submitting his own guidelines. \\ 
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 +**Producer**: I've been open with mine. No one likes them but me. And that's fine. 
 +  - No crowdsourced funding 
 +  - No selling of fan film merchandise 
 +  - No paying of cast and crew (you can pay an electrician, a plumber, or for pest control, but you can't pay for a grip, gaffer, director, etc.) \\ \\ I don't see the point of time limits. 
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 +**Alec Peters**: OK, cool 
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 +//The producer, who spoke to// **AxaMonitor** //on condition of anonymity, never heard from Peters again about participating.// 
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 +The people contacted by Peters comprised larger, well-known productions as well as smaller fan films. They included: 
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 +//**__‘You do all realize that Star Wars does not allow crowdfunding? And there is no way CBS will allow it to move forward. ’__**// — Axanar producer Alec Peters to fan film producers 
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   * Todd Haberkorn of Star Trek: Continues   * Todd Haberkorn of Star Trek: Continues
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   * John Atkin of Yorktown   * John Atkin of Yorktown
   * Nick Cook of Starship Intrepid   * Nick Cook of Starship Intrepid
 +  * Jim Bray of Star Trek: Anthology, who did not participate(([[http://holosuitemedia.com/tie219/|Interview on Tribbles in Ecstasy podcast, "Take 219: No Win Situations"]], released 5/31/16.))
   * Michael King of Starship Valiant   * Michael King of Starship Valiant
   * Scott Johnson of Starbase Studios (who produces several small Star Trek fan films)   * Scott Johnson of Starbase Studios (who produces several small Star Trek fan films)
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 About half participated in the Facebook group chat, Peters told the blog.   About half participated in the Facebook group chat, Peters told the blog.  
  
-One source connected to CBS who asked not to be named reported that few of the other fan productions have officially endorsed Peters' effort. +One source connected to CBS who asked not to be named reported that of the other fan productions [[guidelines_backlash|few have endorsed]] Peters' effort. 
 ===== Proposed Guidelines ===== ===== Proposed Guidelines =====
  
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 8. Fan film makers give to CBS an unlimited, unrestricted license to use their films, or any portion thereof, in any format CBS should deem appropriate. 8. Fan film makers give to CBS an unlimited, unrestricted license to use their films, or any portion thereof, in any format CBS should deem appropriate.
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-The following sections, **Analysis of the Proposal** and **Court of Public Opinion,** include opinion and/or informed speculation‭.+<wrap lo>The following sections, **Analysis of the Proposal** and **Court of Public Opinion,** include opinion and/or informed speculation‭.</wrap>
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 ===== Analysis of the Proposal ===== ===== Analysis of the Proposal =====
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   * Are other fan productions being consulted as part of the process?   * Are other fan productions being consulted as part of the process?
   * Which studio will take the lead in dealing with fan productions?   * Which studio will take the lead in dealing with fan productions?
-  * What are the ramifications on the guidelines drafting process of the possible splitting up of CBS and Paramount as joint plaintiffs?(([[http://1701news.com/node/1211/will-cbs-continue-axanar-lawsuit-its-own.html|1701News.com, "Will CBS Continue Axanar Lawsuit On Its Own?"]], 5/26/16.))+  * What are the ramifications on the guidelines drafting process of the possible split-up of CBS and Paramount as joint plaintiffs?(([[http://1701news.com/node/1211/will-cbs-continue-axanar-lawsuit-its-own.html|1701News.com, "Will CBS Continue Axanar Lawsuit On Its Own?"]], 5/26/16.))
   * What legal relationship would these guidelines create between the studio(s) and the fan productions? Would it be a formal license? Would a payment of some kind be required?Would fan producers instead cede their rights of ownership to CBS or Paramount in exchange for permission to produce their films? {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}   * What legal relationship would these guidelines create between the studio(s) and the fan productions? Would it be a formal license? Would a payment of some kind be required?Would fan producers instead cede their rights of ownership to CBS or Paramount in exchange for permission to produce their films? {{:axamonitor-ico.gif?nolink|}}
  
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-**Keywords** {{tag>fan_films}}+**Keywords** {{tag>news fan_films guidelines}}