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The more that I refer to is quantified in time saved which equals money saved that can be used elsewhere in the production. In this very long post I've hoped to give you some honest answers to what I have received as sincere production questions. I hope you will receive my answers in kind. | The more that I refer to is quantified in time saved which equals money saved that can be used elsewhere in the production. In this very long post I've hoped to give you some honest answers to what I have received as sincere production questions. I hope you will receive my answers in kind. | ||
+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: As Brenda herself explained on her remodeling project, 25% of her considerable budget went to salaries. We paid a fraction of what our construction team was worth, and our sets are some of the best I've ever seen, and I worked at Warner Brothers in Feature Production for a few years. In fact, everything on the AXANAR production is absolutely first rate, at a fraction of normal costs. | ||
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+ | Milton Santiago: Mario Suarez I don't believe Rob mentioned anything about interactive consoles or interactive buttons. What he and I are referring to are interactive graphics on the monitors themselves. There are different ways to skin a cat and I certainly do not object to discussing the different ways you could do just that. That said it's unfair to start with the assumption, at least with regards to the production end of things which is the only end of things I'm qualified to speak to, that donor' | ||
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+ | Patty Wright: The costumes is nonsense. Alec owned Garth' | ||
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+ | Milton Santiago: Mario Suarez Believe me I understand your frustration. I'm frustrated. Rob is frustrated. We've dedicated a significant amount of time and heart into preparing to make this film. We do not get that time back. I respect your right to have an opinion about whether or not the care the production team has given to the details is worth it. I believe that it would be, but I'm a visual person so I readily admit I'm biased that way. | ||
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+ | **Shawn P. O' | ||
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+ | The fact is when you've taken in $1.2 million from donations (so far) and have 23 minutes of footage to show for it, you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you start throwing phrases like " | ||
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+ | And again, not for nothing, but I don't blame you and I don't blame RMB, I'm just suggesting that you might want to be a little more diplomatic than saying "You couldn' | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: Patty Wright All of the AXANAR feature costumes are original designs and created from scratch. | ||
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+ | Milton Santiago: Shawn P. O' | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: Brenda Handam We did. The disconnect here is, you're looking for a day to day accounting of what we've done...when a lot of that material has never been seen. Heck, I have two finished pieces of SCORE from the film, one with a CHOIR singing. (It will blow you away, btw...) | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: Brenda Handam I'm a filmmaker. My career speaks for itself. I love everything I do. I've worked all over the world, very effectively spending studio money. I've never been called to the carpet by anyone. Until now. By a very small group of people who have absolutely no experience in my industry. Jody Wheeler, who was in collage while I was working on a 200 million dollar Warner Brothers film, acts like he knows more than I do. | ||
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+ | I'm here because I'm a fan and a professional, | ||
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+ | Not one person here asked to come to the studio and demand to see what we've accomplished. Why is that? You want answers to your questions? I invite you to my office, and I will show you tremendous work done by many talented people. Yet no one here has asked. Not one of this group has actually come by our studio. Why not? | ||
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+ | **Shawn P. O' | ||
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+ | No one is questioning your dedication or your intentions or that of the many well-meaning production staff who have been involved in this. But I do know for a fact that a lot well-meaning people left this project due to ethical conflicts with Alec himself and I know this because they' | ||
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+ | Your credibility is being questioned because of your association with this project and Alec Peters and to be fair, for someone who signed on to direct back in June of 2015, you're kinda going out of your way to martyr yourself for that - as Wil Wheaton refers to him - douchecanoe and it's getting kind of tired. | ||
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+ | You actually tried to say that you didn't have a studio... it was just a warehouse... that has a soundstage. | ||
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+ | Now, if you want get a bug up your ass and resort to name-calling at 3 am after you've had a few belts... hey, knock yourself out... but that doesn' | ||
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+ | We are full-circle back to the issue that Axanar/AP has leveraged the Star Trek brand without permission to milk fans out of, so far, $1.2 M with 23 minutes of footage to show for it while Alec gets to skim off the top (while calling people trailer trash who question that) and use this fan-funded corporation to front his other corporation that he already ran into the ground once, while screwing his creditors out of $400K. | ||
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+ | Jody Wheeler is correct when he says that these donors are effectively investors but with no recourse or protections and with a track record like Alec' | ||
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+ | I've been more than generous with my assessment of you and your involvement because like I've said, I believe that you're sincere and that you've had nothing but the best of intentions but again, you're afforded less of that benefit of the doubt every time you try to defend Alec's asshattery, which BTW, is not your asshattery to defend. Shit, Mike Bawden understands this concept, why is it so difficult for you? | ||
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+ | The worst part about it is how vehemently you do it. | ||
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+ | Imma tell you a little story: back in 1997 when I was 22, I made the mistake of getting exceptionally plastered (as I assume you are now) on the SU hill (go Orange) and while standing in line at a sandwich shop called The Pita Pit, I made the very big mistake of opening my big mouth and starting shit with another guy in line for no reason. My friends warned me repeatedly to knock it off and I didn't listen. | ||
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+ | Before I knew it, I had pretty much tried to take on the entire SU campus. Thankfully, a guy about 6' 5"/400 pounds intervened between myself and certain doom and yelled over to my friends, "Hey, is this guy with you?" | ||
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+ | My friends responded by saying, "Oh, he's on his own on this one." It was at that moment that I knew it was time to leave. | ||
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+ | The moral of the story is that sometimes you just gotta say, "Oh, he's on his own" for your own good. | ||
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+ | This isn't really about you so you can climb down from off of that cross and stop making it about you. | ||
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+ | That is of course unless your status has changed and you're cutting the checks and are responsible for all of the asshattery like all of these magical corporations in bankruptcy friendly jurisdictions that are popping up. Are you? | ||
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+ | Now, aside from the name-calling, | ||
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+ | Also, if you're giving out tours, will you be giving them in your chapter 7-friendly Nevada location as well? | ||
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+ | **Patty Wright** Robert Meyer Burnett, we were discussing the budget for Prelude. And, unfortunately, | ||
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+ | **Patty Wright** Shawn, they may have incorporated in NV because there are standing TOS sets there Alec may have intended to use back then. Not everything is necessarily nefarious. | ||
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+ | Robert, perhaps no one has stopped by because when someone suggested it near the beginning of all this Alec went off the deep end over the idea. | ||
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+ | **Robert Meyer Burnett** I assure you, I'm not having a few belts. There is no conspiracy here. Everyone involved simply desired to make a great film and hopefully make others. Pretty simple. | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: Brenda Handam As someone who donated money to the project, why then spend each and every day attacking AXANAR instead of making the effort to actually come and see how your money is being spent? No one here has even asked to do that. It's monumentally frustrating to know how much work has been completed on AXANAR, with the project attacked on a daily basis, yet not one person has ever actually asked to come see what's been done. | ||
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+ | Shaun Mckenning: I do think yourself and most of the production staff at Axanar did set out to make the best film you could but I think things have gotten out of hand and instead of making the best fan film you all could you've become obsessed with trying to make a big block buster movie, I understand things cost money but when you've got limited funds and you're using other people' | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: If there hadn't been a lawsuit, the first 30-40 minutes would' | ||
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+ | Robert Meyer Burnett: Brenda Handam With the tone here a bit more civil, I've been trying to participate as much as I'm able. | ||
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